2. There were some big forces going on that didnt have anything to do with Hae. Adnan then threatened to expose Jay's drug dealing operation if he didn't help bury Hae. He calls me and says Im outside, so I come outside to talk to himand followed him to a different car, not his. ("Serial" host Sarah Koenig attempted, but failed, to convince Wilds to open up on the podcast. This is the first part in a multipart interview. When was the first time you hung out with Adnan? Part of HuffPost Entertainment. Jay says: He went to the mall alone. Getting them in trouble for anything that they knew or that I had told them I couldnt have that.. July 1, 2016. It was at least a week before she died, when he found out she was either cheating on him or leaving him. He also doesn't mention looking to buy weed in Forest Park, which he testified to doing after ditching the car, or dropping Adnan at track practice, which Adnan claimed to have attended (although his coach wasn't able to confirm). But Brown wantd to sell soon & Jay couldn't get paid till Nov. Getting them in trouble for anything that they knew or that I had told them I couldnt have that. Jays wife and mother entertained the couples young children while Jay and I spoke in the family living room. There was only Jay's testimony which seemed, at least in the prosecution's telling, to be backed up by cell phone records. The cell records were used again and again to show the phone was in Leakin Park at 7pm. Something went wrong. The problem is they completely undermine the state's case against Adnan. Jay says: Adnan buried the body at midnight. Jays testimony was critical to the states case; indeed,without his testimony its virtually impossible that the state could have even brought Syed to trial. What happened before that, I dont know.. I don't know Adnan, andI don't think Jay's lies prove Adnan's innocence. Maybe Jays a liar. Each week, we explore unique solutions to some of the world's biggest problems. Wilds and his family have tried to stay out of the spotlight, with Wilds citing the danger his cooperating with the police puts his family in, even though he claims he tried to stonewall the cops for as long as possible until they broke him down. Syed is currently serving a life sentence. You cant start drawing conclusions like that. It is possible that Jay could be lying while Jenn is still telling the truth, I'm not sure they should be put in the "same box" in that regard. I don't feel comfortable drawing conclusions like that. Miller thinks his appeal has a real chance. "He'll trade places with you in a heartbeat," he continued. After the earlier mistrial, Judge Quarles recused himself from sitting for the next trial, and so the case was held before a new judge (Heard) and of course a new jury. Listening to Serial, the hole for me has always been motive. pic.twitter.com/QhE5vAxdtP. It all revolves around Jay," lawyer and Syed family friend Rabia Chaudry says in episode two of "The Case Against Adnan Syed." "Jay told the story that convicted Adnan." But that testimony shifting and shot through with holes as it is is all the prosecution had. "This completely destroys the state's case. And then in his Intercept interview, Wilds said the body was actually in front of his grandmas house, but he told police it was at the Best Buy, because he didnt want to involve his grandma. Or take the murder itself. Were sitting there smoking and he receives a phone call from the police and gets all panicky. CNN Sans & 2016 Cable News Network. So that would ruin her life too. Here's that new story compared to the facts we know. At the time, this was Maryland in the 90s, the drug laws were extremely serious. Wilds also shares a follow-up email. Wilds originally told police that he saw Lees body in the parking lot of a Best Buy near the high school. A detailed investigation into the weight loss app, Is SHEIN bad? A detective testifies Jay told him he first saw Hae's body on Franklintown Road. The part where he quotes Adnan as saying "Come get me, the bitch is dead" is just so made up. Jay all but admitted to @BobRuffTruth that he got the reward. Reason 2: Jay is one of the alternate suspects. Elon Musk and Bill Maher Warn Against the 'Woke Mind Virus,' a.k.a. The group of people I hung out with were different from the group of people I was from. So where is Wilds today? Is this when you first saw Haes body in the trunk of her car? The following has been edited and condensed for clarity. When the Serial podcast premiered in October of 2014, many listeners were shocked to find that almost the entirety of the prosecutions case to convict Adnan Syed for the murder of his ex-girlfriend Hae Min Lee hinged on the testimony of one witnessJay Wilds. Like she was a junior in college. The way Wilds tells it, Syed pressured him to help dispose of Lees body. She's a high school girl,' Oh, Jay Wilds's cute, Oh, whatever' -- things fizzle out. It took the viral podcastSerialto highlight the cases inconsistencies and a determined prosecutor, Marilyn Mosby, to dig into Adnans case which she wasnt obligated to do and ask the court to set aside Syeds erroneous conviction. Support our mission and help keep Vox free for all by making a financial contribution to Vox today. Thats the best way I can account for the inconsistencies. Wieselman writes about and reports on the television industry. It helped fan the flames of this story that people had already moved on from.. She just seemed like an older chick who happened to be in high school. Ultimately, Wilds said he didn't feel he had anything to add to Koenig's investigation into Adnan Syed 's guilt or innocence. I also ran the operation out of my grandmothers house and that also put my family at risk. The popular podcast detailed an investigation into the 15-year-old murder of Hae Min Lee, a popular high school senior in Baltimore. I remember the highway traffic to my right, and I remember standing there on the curb. This is a moot point now, as Syed was granted a new trial in 2018. We have done best to reduce the size for you, but there are limits because the original quality was fairly poor. In another interview, he said the body was on Edmondson Avenue, while a detective testified in court that Wilds told him the body was on Franklintown Road. According to Susan Simpson, another lawyer working on the Undisclosed podcast, the official recorded interviews between Wilds and the police reveal some strange auditory clues to why the police would lie about the date they began questioning Wilds. Everything We Know About Jay Wilds From HBO's Serial Documentary In fact he had a meeting with them for weeks. If Wilds did receive the reward money for being the tipster, but that information wasnt disclosed, that would have immediately led to a new trial. It's guilt that has to be proven. and 4p.m. But because of the specifics Wilds included in his testimony the Best Buy location that supposedly matches with call logs, strangling, the whereabouts of Lees car there wasnt much doubt Wilds was somehow involved, even if just peripherally. I stonewalled them that way. The fight to make it harder for landlords to evict their tenants, On Succession, Sisyphus rolls the rock uphill, Ecuadors political instability, explained. He continued:People had lives and were trying to get into college and stuff like that. Joining is simple and doesnt need to cost a lot: You can become a sustaining member for as little as $3 or $5 a month. Dorseys sentencing argument (Adnans new lawyer) p13 And he wasn't talking. "However, I do have a note from Altemate Number 4, 'In view of that fact that you've determined that Ms. Gutierrez is a liar, will she be removed? And it's hard to imagine, right now, how anyone could be free of doubt about Jay's testimony. I said, Isnt he a paramedic? And she said, Nah, hes cool, plus he wants to buy., I didnt trust him at first, since he wasnt like the people I knew pot smokers you know? Why Nikisha Horton, Jay Wilds' Ex-Girlfriend, Matters In 'The Case Syed was put on trial in February 2000 and was convicted of the murder of his girlfriend Hae Min Lee. Of course, Chaudry isn't a disinterested observer a fact she freely admits. Pusateri and Wilds were . This is where people would have their house firebombed and still tell the police they knew nothing about it rather than to try to make some sense of whats going on. "I just felt like she was lying," Wilds says. At Vox, we believe that everyone deserves access to information that helps them understand and shape the world they live in. And they were getting sentenced to three and five years. In HBOsThe Case Against Adnan Syed, Rabia Chaudry, a longtime friend of Adnan and host of theUndisclosedpodcast, talked about the impact of Jays testimony: Jay is the center of gravity in this case. Thats all it takes to support the journalism you rely on. This fact cannot be disputed. I guess I was being kind of a jury on whether or not people needed to be involved or whatever, but these people didnt have anything to do with it, and I knew they didnt have anything to do with it. March 9, 2019 at 2:00 PM. Jay was undoubtedly prepped before the interview. It wasnt just like I was selling a nickel bag here and there. I wasnt fully cooperating, so if they said, Well, we have on phone records that you talked to Jenn. Id say, Nope, I didnt talk to Jenn. Until Jenn told me that she talked with the cops and that it was ok if I did too. But it also undermines the case against Adnan. Then he calls me and says, Come pick me up., So I go to pick him up, and when I get there he says, Oh shit, I did it. I say, Did what? He says, I killed Hae.. Shes a high school girl, Oh, hes cute, Oh, whateverthings fizzleout. I remember Adnan standing next to me. These interviews were set up by Urick, the state prosecutor, who gave an interview himself. Was it in the Best Buy parking lot? Once the police made it clear that my drug dealing wasn't gonna affect the outcome of what was going on, I became a little bit more transparent.". Which is to say, Jay always said Adnan choked Hae to death and asked Jay to help him bury the body. The taps on the recording, some have decided, may have been the sound of someone writing pen to paper very quickly on a hard surface, or just a little physical cue that Wilds needed to come up with the right answer fast. But that, according to what I learned later, is probably not what happened. Jay Wilds: I think that was Jay Wilds first real girlfriend, and I Once the police made it clear that my drug dealing wasnt gonna affect the outcome of what was going on, I became a little bit more transparent.. Heres everything we know about Jay Wilds before the premiere of HBOs documentary series, The Case Against Adnan Syed. Koenig tried to interview Jay. Inside Sheins controversial culture, Does Noom really work? Jay Wilds is a former classmate of Adnan Syed from Baltimore, Maryland. Young Lee Haes brother p4 Before you would just go down there for drafting, shop, and everyone would co-mingle, and all the students interacted. He's now saying, no, Adnan never told me he would do it that day, he just showed up and said Ill be contacting you later. Based on Syeds indictment date, the CrimeStoppers reward should have been paid in June, but it was not paid until November. He claims Adnan strangled Hae, showed Jay the body and made Jay help bury Hae's body. Rabia Chaudry, a civil rights attorney who grew up near Syed and tipped the host of Serial off to the story believes Wilds is lying. Wilds, who was an acquaintance of Syed, confessed to helping Syed bury Lee's body, though he originally denied having anything to do with the murder. The reports of his ill health explained, How did Jung Chae-yul die? Syed could be granted another trial, though, which could pull Wilds back into the spotlight. The reason I think @BaltimorePolice knew Jay/Jenn were lying (and were ok with it) is b/c they didn't try to find shovels till weeks later. A December 1999 trial ended in mistrial. The one interview Wilds gave was to The Intercept in 2014. Jay helped dig the hole for about 40 minutes, he told Vargas-Cooper, but refused to actually move the body. He knew I was afraid of that. #FreeAdnan #PerjuryFTW, An infographic is in order to keep track of Jay's lies. Syeds trial, and Jays testimony, became the focus of a This American Life spinoff series, the 12-part podcast Serial, broadcast in the fall of this year. Theyre gonna pin me to the fucking wall. Jay's actions here may not be right. #FreeAdnan #Serial #LyingMoFo! Will we start over? Unmasking the unethical business practices of the fashion brand, Is Telekinesis real? Romano Thomas BPD Mobile Crime Lab tech p103, Motion for mistrial granted p 255 Jay says: He went to the mall alone. The thing is that the story Jay told at trial is not the same story Jay told police the first time.. #FreeAdnan pic.twitter.com/4iCiYVHtFl, EGAD he cannot keep his lies STRAIGHT #FreeAdnan #ThanksJay! When the Serial podcast premiered in October of 2014, many listeners were shocked to find that almost the entirety of the . And Wilds was also a professed accomplice to Syeds crime, which further complicated his role as the prosecutions sole witness. I believe she had a job also. The other thing to understand is something about the culture of Baltimorethis is where the Stop Snitching video comes from. He also makes clear that his cooperation with the police was reluctant at best. Part three is scheduled to be published on Wednesday. By the time I graduated [Woodlawn] high school in 1998, I wasnt exactly angry, but I did resent the school. Got called an Oreo. Hae was dead before she got to my house. on about your day, ask yourself: How likely is it that the story you just read would have been produced by a different news outlet if The Intercept hadnt done it? ago "I feel like [Koenig] created an evil archetype of me and sensationalized my motives. But at 5:38 p.m., when Adnan is supposed to be at track practice, a call placed to Adnan's friend Krista pings a tower "sort of where" Hae's car ends up, Koenig says in Episode 5. Consequently, Wilds is a looming figure in Sarah Koenig and Julie Snyders reporting about the trial. Nisha Adnans romantic interest p25 The Intercept is an independent nonprofit news outlet. Wilds' testimony in the murder trial was central to the conviction of Syed due to the nature of his account of events. Jay Wilds leaves the courtroom p86 Im pretty sure it was my fear of going to prison for having a bunch of weed in my grandmas house. My New Years just go SO HAPPY. Officer Adcock also testified that he was probably the 6:24 p.m. incoming call on Adnan's cellphone log, which would have been during that time. Syed was previously sentenced to life in prison. I dont think thats wrong, its high school, you know. I thought at worst hed throw a rock through her window or something. Adnan apparently opened the trunk of Hae's car and showed Jay her body. I dont know what happened, what occurred between them that day. And detective notes capped Browns interview with the word REWARD, written in all caps. I dont necessarily know if he meant to kill Hae before he did it or if it was a sudden moment thing, but looking at his life, from what I saw, he seemed to be far out of his realm when it came to Hae leaving him. What exactly did Jay Wilds do to help Adnan Syed? One such person was Jennifer Pusateri, who had a vital interaction with Syed and alleged accomplice Jay Wilds on Jan. 13, 1999, the night Lee, a high school student in Baltimore, was murdered. Wilds has stayed private since the 2014 interview. Jay is now saying at no point was he shown the body at Best Buy, that that never happened. I had a lot more on the line than just a few bags of weed. Adnan Syed is currently serving life in prison, plus 30 years, for a murder he claims he didn't commit, and he may not have ended up there if it weren't for his former classmate, Jay Wilds. Normal high school Im mad at her and Ill scratch her car sort of stuff. The part about Cathy's apartment is pretty undisputed, though -- Jay, Cathy and Adnan all acknowledge being there that evening. "I said before that the prosecution's case was dead. I was pretty distraught, fucked up, feeling guilty for not saying nothing. In one police interview, Wilds said he saw the body, it was in a. When I pick him up at Best Buy, hes telling me her car is somewhere there, and that he did this in the parking lot. Drug law enforcement was harsh, he explained, and he "had a lot more on the line than just a few bags of weed.". Final part of the three-part interview is expected to publish Wednesday, "Serial," a popular podcast, detailed an investigation into the 15-year-old murder of Hae Min Lee, Her ex-boyfriend, Adnan Syed, was convicted, Key witness in the case against Syed was Jay Wilds, who spoke to The Intercept. From the discussions the following day we do know it was the first day of the trial and included jury selection (voir dire) as well as discussions, and probably agreements, about items which might later be introduced into evidence. A layperson could tell you neither Jay or Adnan were involved. Discussion re voir dire p3 Number of episodes: 25+ (ongoing). Adnan and Stephanie were also very close witch could be another reason as to why Jay is. I was also around a bunch of people earlier that day [at Cathy's], and I didn't want them to get fucked up with homicide." Jay painted his lying as an act of altruism. I follow him halfway back down the hill, park, smoke some cigarettes. In Serial you are depicted as a petty weed dealer. I only smoked with him two or three times. But Jay spoke to the Intercept's Natasha Vargas-Cooper. Jay said: "I was also running [drug] operations from my grandmother's house. He was magnet. "He might really have just been bulls******* at the time. Jay says: It wasnt just like I was selling a nickel bag here and there. In that situation, he was the loser. They were granted Syeds cell phone call records and then looked at two recipients of calls from Syeds phone: Jennifer Pusateri and Wilds. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. All about the workings of this global humanitarian organization, Was Charles Stanley sick? Are you kidding me? Jay feels strongly that he was unfairly depicted by Koenig and that she painted a highly misleading portrayal of him and his role in the case. He wouldve gone to jail for murder!". The retailers demise explained, Is UNICEF a good charity? He says he was unfairly portrayed in the podcast, which revisited in-depth the investigation and trial of Syed a key part of which was centered on Wilds testimony. "Im coming at this as someone who knew Adnan since he was young," she says. Adnan received a call from the police regarding Hae's disappearance and got "all panicky," so Jay suggested they separate. He saw himself as a target. Baltimore police were already focusing their investigation on Syed after an anonymous tip told them to look at Lees ex. We were in the car together during last periodhe was ditching the last period. Us Weekly - Jay Wilds, the key witness in Serial, admitted - Facebook From the way he carried himself, at least, it looked like he had never lost anything before. Read the latest news, or follow the development of the legal case on the Appeals page. 9:41 PM EST, Tue December 30, 2014. I met him while I was still at Woodlawn, so around 1998. And she's right. appreciated. Pusateri's police interviews and court testimony (along with Wilds' own) were instrumental in convicting Syed of the killing. Jay says: He went to Jenn's house.Jay told The Intercept he remembered going over to his friend Jenn's to hang out after leaving the mall. At this point, it's between 3 and 4 p.m. We know: At trial, the "trunk pop" moment allegedly happened at Best Buy. With this interview, Jay has now burned the corpse.". Discovery Company. Yes. Why did he lie? He left in his car and I was trying to collect myself at my [grandmothers] house. She quotes the prosecutor saying, "he tells police a consistent story about the defendant, he tells consistently the defendants involvement, the defendants actions on that day. ), In the new interview, Wilds explained his changing accounts of what happened as attempts to spare friends and family -- namely, the grandmother he lived with -- from any involvement in the case. Please enter a valid email and try again. #FreeAdnan #MerryChristmas, I just can't even. I played lacrosse, was a bit of a jock. Evidence page for 2016 State Leave for Remand, 2013-15 Reopening Post Conviction (pre PCR), Evidence in 2015 Defense Motion to Reopen, asked Judge Heard for help having her dismissed from the case, Judge Heard was not able to be present due to a family funeral. But they don't need to. "Anything that's going to make him innocent doesn't involve me. The way she moved and went about her day. I don't think it meant that much to her. Jay said: I was also running [drug] operations from my grandmothers house. I dont know whether he calls me when hes on his way back to my house, or if he calls me right outside the house. Motion denied p6 The Dark Brandonmeme and why the Biden campaign has embraced it explained, Take a mental break with the newest Vox crossword, Sign up for the The story he tells her is, in some respects, more believable than the story he's ever told anyone else. Oops. Jay Wilds, Maryland's key (and only) witness at Adnan Syed's 2000 trial for murdering Hae Min Lee which was chronicled on the hotly debated Serial podcast, which launched in October 2014 and completed its 12-episode run earlier this month has consented to a single interview (with The Intercept) in an attempt to tell his side of the story. Yes the serial team had these documents and did not report this. Proceedings close p256. Though Wilds stands by his storyat least the one he told The InterceptChaudry and Undisclosed have continued to dig up evidence that wouldnt just exonerate Syed, but also Wilds himself. "She looked kinda purple," he said. I didnt know it was that close. Lets back up, tell me what happened when you arrived at the Best Buy to pick up Adnan. He feared the police. The transcript for December 8, 1999, first day of first trial, is not available, and a small number of other pages are also missing. Syed might still be prosecuted again, but its improbable. Some of what Wilds claims in the new interview also contradicts what he told police a point he addressed. Did you make the anonymous call to the police to tip them off about Adnan? I can't be as confident as Chaudry. I said, Drug dealers, people who get killed by drug dealers, and Im thinking to myself, When did I ever say that? So, as Im riding with him to the park and it starts raining and Im thinking to myself as he pulls overand Im thinking this is the spot hes chosen. There wasn't any physical evidence linking Adnan to the crime. Attorney for the Defendant: Maria Cristina Gutierrez. Several hours later -- or "closer to midnight" -- Jay said Adnan reappeared in his own car, and drove the two of them to Leakin Park with some "gardening tools" from Jay's grandmother's house. Now I dont wanna tell the people at Cathys that this guy Im with just killed his girlfriend and the cops just called because then they would all be a part of this fucked up thing. Jay Wilds Killed Hae Min Lee by Darci Dodge - Prezi Anything that makes Adnan innocent doesnt involve me, he said. This is where people would have their house firebombed and still tell the police they knew nothing about it rather than to try to make some sense of whats going on. All we know about Alain Marceau, talked about the impact of Jays testimony. Adnan is away for life because the state used Jay's testimony to show premeditation he said Adnan told him he was going to kill Hae before he did it. But they don't need to. I made him smoke one time, he got a little high, got a little weird. It was just at the end of my junior year, so about 16. During his interview withThe Intercept,Jay came up with another version of events, but throughout the interview, he would sneakily point out that the passing of time would have affected his recollection of events. I dont know if she said something he couldnt handle, and he went off the edge or if he had been seriously speculating about it. Uricks sentencing argument p11 Jay Wilds Some think Wilds could have killed Lee himself. But when they put the magnet wing in, it was kinda like these people were different from us. And they didnt have to interact with us anymore. ", The argument for trusting Jay has been that while the details of his story change, "the spine," as Koenig put it, holds. When did he first talk to you about hurting her? Jay gives Vargas-Cooper a simple reason for his lies: he was a serious drug dealer living in a culture that feared and mistrusted the police. ), Defense objection to seating Juror Number 6 p2, Defense motion in limine to instruct jurors not to read any newspapers for the duration of the trial (denied) p11, Presidents Day, National Holiday. Hes gone with Haes car. They had to chase me around before they could corner me to talk to me, and there came a point where I was just sick of talking to them.
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