This tragic epidemic in church that makes superstars out of ministers and puts in the hearts of young people that having a platform and being a worship leader is the pinnacle ofholiness;it is a sickness andcompletelybiblical. Im trying to to be patient with myself but I certainly have latent anger and questions. Talking correctly was Hope that helps and best wishes on your journey as well. But Im convinced The Church is in the hallow of His hand and being saved to the uttermost! Church MacArthur has valid points. As time went on though, I began to question the Pentecostal belief system a little bit by little bit. Enjoy! One of the greatest resources that helped me through this difficult timehas been others sharing their stories and so I am compelled to share mine. You did an excellent job of pointing out many of the outrageous and even criminal acts and errors of these false teachers.yet so few want to hear it. False prophecy is rampant in these circles. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Shortly after, 2 more people left. Like any other addict, I was always looking for an opportunity to get my next "hit." He told Israel if you do this (obey). They were engaged within a month and within two months had broken off their engagement because God apparently spoke to her again and told her No . While so many of these are not the essentials or the fundamentals of the faith there is a point when its time to cry foul on some of the things taking place in our assemblies. Wilkersons students didnt have ministry degrees and were former drug abusers. I went to In this video, I talk about the reasons why i left the conservative Pentecostal movement. We can only know God properly by His Word, not feeling, emotion or some experience. She took away two step children I raised and love dearly and cut them off from all contact with me. The topics were "ripped from the headlines." Hi Tim, I remember you from Bethel. Give thanks in all circumstances! Sorry. That was rough after coming from a church where relationships were so central to church life. It sees this gratitude as humiliating and oppressive. mostly on evangelising. JavaScript is disabled. Somehow, it all seemed so cheap and plastic now. This is where I am in my walk with God. There is an airof spiritual elitism aboutit. What was claimed for the great But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good. I looked so holy Im sure in my Sunday best. It was scary making the decision to leave but leaving and going back to my Bible church was like going from desert to oasis. Today the seeking of Gods Presence, a word, a special anointing, has been replaced by rightly knowing Gods word and simply obeying it. (There seem to be a lot) it is sporadic. touch, but I knew I was saying "goodbye" forever. No thinking Christian could or should attempt to dispute them. I have had several dreams believing they were from God but after my chaotic experience I have questioned whether they were or not. - Does God still heal? The Catholic Church in effect falters when her members fall short of what they should be doing and believing. The Harlot Church system is also helpful you can find the PDF online. My pastors tried to Here's the portion about my story being in the pentecostal/NAR/charismatic church dealing with false prophets. Some popular charismatic ministers are bad therefore ALL Pentecostals and Charismatics are bad. There is too much emphasis on business pragmatics, with marketing, with church growth movements, with self-help emphasis in churches today. I have studied deeply in my time in the wilderness , prostrate on my face before Jesus and the Word of God. Youre Blocking Your Blessings. Do you all really believe this? James 3:1 (NKJV) My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. I am absolutely scared that I am a narcissist and I don't know what to do. to a lack of maturity. and leaders assumed that a guilty conscience was keeping me away from church. These men prophesy lies and the people imagine vain things. I am none too worried to be honest as experience has, to a larger degree, taught me wisdom and discernment. Let us pray that many will read your post and see the lies, the great deception which has settled upon the church in this last hour. I was still being taught that God loved me and wanted to bless me but I didn't believe it anymore. As Michael has stated on this blog (and I paraphrase), the church is full of people. When my mom became terminally ill at a young age from a neurological disease, I believed all the faith healers that it was always Gods will for us to be healthy and wealthy. It was then that I truly knew God was real to me. I actually have a 3-4 page testimony on my Facebook which was written by my friend on her blog (Growing4life.net) Changed Lives. healing. He is the Word. Mind you he left me sitting in a worship service for 45 minutes to chat with another girl that he ended up dating weeks later. Also grew up in church but i always thought to myself there must be more than this. It isnt and wont be an easy life as a follower of Christ because there will always be conflict with the evil one, but Jesus is Lord of all, at whose name every knee will bow, and He has given us the victory over sin and the spiritual death it causes, through our faith in Him . A Gospel preaching church. Thank you for sharing this. Members of the United Pentecostal Church Church Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you. 'My principal concern,' writes John MacArthur, 'is to call the church to a firm commitment to the purity and authority of the Scriptures, and thereby to strengthen the unity of the true church.' This is my story. Meaning I do not believe the apostolic gifts today but I believe God can warn people by speaking about what is to come in their personal lives and convict them, etc. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. coming. There was something happening literally every night of the week. Quite right puresola that SDA is a cult and Mrs White a false prophet and the link I supplied about the book The Great Controversy warns people to avoid it and SDA. Why I left the apostolic Pentecostal church and never As stated in previous posts, I believe that God speaks but if you have a word it better not go against His Word. This website offers so much encouraging bible based literature. Well I guess you now know what God is doing, Hes bringing His real children out of a apostate Church and into His truth. They looked at me like I justkicked a newborn baby off a bridge?! I wanted to stay in a charismatic/Pentecostal church, but I hoped to find one that wasn't so controlling. I think you are taking my words out of context. It was time to join a more conservative group of Christians and yet still enjoy the fellowship of the Spirit. My beliefs are based upon 40 years of exposure to the deception the OP writes about. I was raised as an Assemblies of God Pentecostal by my parents, and I went to a medium I found this message grab my attention instantly. I received a letter from a man who was raised as a Catholic in the 1960s and who stated that the Catholic Church Why I am no longer a Pentecostal - Old Paths She went to Israel with her daughter five months after leaving and decided it was okay to date while she was there. WebI am an ex-member who walked away about 3 years ago, after four years of membership in the United Pentecostal Church International (UPCI). Blessings, Thank you. Your story and my story are very similar. His doctor at that time told him 25% of his patients had some affiliation with churches. I love Justin peters and John MacArthur It really helped me. That, in turn, just re-enforced the idea that I was doing something wrong. Why are we putting a title and saying sr. joanne, br. Why I Left the Indian Pentecostal Church - Medium a call to action. So, He took my support structure away, I join prayer groups from time to time, but mostly I am on a solitary path. I look forward to your next post! Everyone has ideas, come from different backgrounds and have varying levels of faith. Thank you for voicing it. Wants us to. It has only been out there for a few days. You should be able to pull up the bizarre video on YouTube along w/ his wifes pic laying on a grave to soak up the dead persons anointing. I see now I was very wrong. Why I left the Pentecostal Church - YouTube We are not to follow people. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here lol. Due to their extreme legalism I felt that I was not getting the true message of the gospel, but instead indoctrinated by man-made rules. Thus, there is no longer a need nor cause for any words from God because he has said all he needs to say in the bible. Of course now I am a sinner.I failed because God wasnt enough. The left hates the Churchs love of the poor, which seeks to alleviate the sufferings of the unfortunate instead of inciting them to revolt against those who have more. However, it might not be Gods will to hear that particular scripture. Have MERCY on those who waver; SAVE others by snatching them from the FIRE; have MERCY on others, but with fear, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.". Subsequently, I could look beyond the experiential and look at Christ. In Charismatic Chaos, John F. MacArthur calls for biblical evaluation and analyzes the doctrinal differences between charismatics and non-charismatics in the light of Scripture. to serve the church just wasn't the same. Its like saying Dr. Why is it considered normal in society to work yourself to death and be broke after paying bills? While I reject the label charismatic, Im still a continuationist, and I wish more who believe in the Biblical gifts would call out the unbiblical extremes like being drunk in the spirit. I've never heard if you can't speak in tongues you're going to hell. And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. I dont place much trust in dreams and visions because sometimes they are good and sometimes they are dark. Praise God He continue to lead and guide us by His Spirit, just as He promised . I hope you find it helpful and the link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9ELq9TD08. I will certainly look it up. My destination is Heaven or bust! Pray continually! Everything you described I can relate to very much. There are days that I feel extremely frustrated, angry and then there are days that Im OK and thats just a part of healing from being in a radical fridge movement. The church we attended at the time had people like Rodney Howard Brown, and his ilk. I left at 1.30am when the meeting was still going on. 1 Thess 5:21 NAS they didn't come to pass. When people put more stock in their dreams/visions and feelings and they choose to elevate it above your word they are in delusion. I often misquoted and took Martin Luther King out of context because, well, it fitted my situation; Free at last. option, but it was also an admission of failure and lack of faith. I left for a more orthodox teaching. My wife left me after becoming involved with this movement. Three years ago I went to a revival in a church and, for the first time ever queued to get in. Why isnt being a patient sitter illegal yet? LIVING HOLY EVEN AS HE IS HOLY!! Assembly of God, Calvary Chapel, Southern Baptist are generally good Churches. heading in the wrong direction. How To Get Over A Guy I Have Strong Feelings For? Missouri Congregation Quits United Pentecostal Church in Video I searched out many testimonies when I was coming out for comfort and help. I am older and wiser. This is the conditioning that goes on in the charismatic/Pentecostal church. Being hurt, seeing confusion in the life of my friends lead me back to God. When I hear that hyped up exegesis Gospel now I can easily discern that it is not biblical and it simply does not line up with scripture. We need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the dirty bathwater. You will hopefully find this article informative on this book The Great Controversy by Ellen White this is the link http://www.takeheed.info/pdf/March-2014/The-Great-Controversy.pdf, Im not an Adventist although I know decent people who are. So, corruption is not just in the Pentecostal circles. Last week, my wife & I attended a Bethel healing conference I did not make it through the entire 3 days. It is an out of balance, unbiblical view of being a disciple of Christ. Knowing Christ and Living a life simply following the precepts of the bible are more than enough. Why I Left the Pentecostal/Charismatic Movement Any more than Homosexuality in the Church started with the United Methodist Church. We should actually share deep stuff adn walk this road together but the system does not allow us to grow closer to Eachother. Many in the congregation go to and from Bethel. That's why Jesus said. It is important never to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Have you ever met someone on Social Media and started dating them? Knowing God was not a "personal" experience at all. this is why many have lost their way. This is the beginning of a wonderful journey. I also saw a huge chAnge over twenty years or so and left about six years ago. But Its like the pot calling the kettle black. So, I resonate with and appreciate your story. This is the conditioning that goes on in the charismatic/Pentecostal church. I really saw God's favor working in my life as I humbled myself and sought his guidance. We were never supposed to stop following TORAH(HIS instructions), remembering SHABBAT and observing the feasts. God led me out of the movement and today I am free! church and if I left, I would be hurting the work of God and forcing others to pick up the slack. I searched online desperate to find others like me and found very little comfort which motivated me to share my story. I began to draw away in solitude for a season. These new revelations are being held in high regard by leaders with lots of influence and taught without resistance to MILLIONS, It has filtered into mainline denominations. viewing someones social media and then feeling ill afterwards? So weve moved on from casting the proverbial boulders onto all things Pentecostal to the SDA now have we? It was prophesied that I was going to get promoted at that job and certain things would happen that never did. Why I left the Pentecostal Church Patricia Figueroa 1.32K subscribers Subscribe 574 Share 40K views 4 years ago In this video, I talk about the reasons why i Not minimizing real Church hurt as I have had much of it but its best to let God heal our hearts and make sure we are walking right and loving others as we would want them to love us. However truth be told, Gods inspired, holy word really does satisfy a thirsty soul. When we have visitors from other churches, thats where I notice a lot of what you talk about. Towards the end with all the prophetic words it was nothing but confusion. The false teaching that has come into the Pentecostal camp did not originate with the Pentecostal movement. What about Saul of Tarsus on the way to Damascus? When I reached that point for the first time, I was discouraged but instead of walking away, I We do not ever tell the Spirit what he must do in our lives because we deem it so. I then moved to a new church called good news community church wanting to make a change. I started asking questions like why are we so formal with eachother since Jesus calls us his family and not spiritual family. Most of these people didnt even know the word much less if God was speaking. Take note: solitary, not alone. It constantly breaks my heart to see the hunger for God in peoples eyes, and know they are not getting fed and led to Him: the humanistic messages that encourage people to do their best, instead of helping them to see that without Christ we can do nothing that pleases Him; that we are dead to the old life and we live the new life by Christ in us as new creations with transformed minds and joyful hearts. I left the Charismanic movement for good. For a number of years before I finally left I was unhappy with a number of things, but couldnt bring myself to a point of decision. I have seen this happen many times because God spoke to them its a strong delusion. Go read this book( the Great Controversy) written by E.G. How vain have we become to think the God who is holy, righteous, pure in every way looks to give us his Presence or another word to puff us up! I just want to know the bible as intended. Its a cult, mixing faith and law to keep you saved. xx. For me the best way to find out what we should do or where we must go, is to ask our Father. Also, I pray for discernment of those I meet. They reminded me of all the mistakes I had made during my time at the church and they didn't have to exaggerate, May God lead you on, for there is much more to come. Get it and READ IT! The Assemblies of God were founded in Hot Springs, Arkansas in April, 1914. Please head to the nearest deliverance minister and get that religious spirit cast out of you. Everywhere you read in scriptures the Torah was to be taught and followed FOREVER, EVERLASTING. or show up and let everyone see how badly I had failed in my faith. One thing I have observed, is that the truly godly ministers are not proud and self-seeking but humble before God, honest, and fearlessly devoted to Him and His truth, and their joy and desire is to obey Him, introduce others to Him, and give all the glory to Him . Keep going, God is real, Christ is real, the gifts of the Holy Spirit are real and 100% authentic Gods glory is real and seen in the true work of the Spirit. I encourage you to set healthy boundaries with those who would heap guilt upon you for your life choices. Finally I had a dream being locked inside a glass building and when I woke up that morning I knew it was time I havent looked back. Miracles. Hi there, it is sooo crucially important that we continue to pray for the bride. Surely you cannot blame me. Over the course of 30 days, some wonderful Christians inside the jail (other inmates) grabbed ahold of me and poured out God's love and encouragement on me. Everything from modern day apostles and prophets, signs and wonders, women in leadership, all spiritual gifts exist or only a portion exist today, social gospel/social justice, market place ministry (We Love Our City), 7 mountain mandate and on and on. Where Gods people are and where the Holy Spirit is moving , the devil and his children are going to show up and cause trouble. Pentecost is biblical and the things practised in charasmatic/pentecostal churches are find in the bible. We are encouraged to develop our own relationship with Jesus at our own pace. I find that being away from all the theatrics helped clear the brain fog and confusion. It put an enormous focus on the gifts of the spirit such as speaking in tongues/prophecy and how we were the Elijah generation and we would walk in signs and wonders and how that would cause this great revival. Been theredone thatrejoicing that your eyes have been opened to His Truth! It is full of people who (mostly) volunteer their time. 32 And you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free. Why I Left The Pentecostal Church - False Prophets - YouTube and even Canada. I chat to someone who has a particular issue and quoted what I read this morning, to try and comfort them and show a different path to solve the problem. You described it very well indeed. They are apostate seeking for signs and wonders while using the Bible as a supplemental teaching which is why you are seeing so much error. "Why I Left the Pentecostal Church" - Sermon Upload God bless! That is not what God meant at all about abundance. There we started studying scripture but the practice was the same as my previous church. Im certain at one point I was pursuing God but it became an idol itself. In these emotional services People are spinning and dancing and that must mean we really have the spirit, right? Im going to Florida to visit my son and basically Ive told the Lord, bring it on, drown me. Over time and with the opportunity of hindsight, I was gullible. Yung Miami says she ready to correct her poor speech, thinks she sounds illiterate, 90 Day Fianc: The Other Way: Season 4, Episode 13 - Winds Do Not Blow As the Ships Wish, PrettiSusu Pregnant! He is the Way, the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father but by Him! much about the lives of their members outside of church and they didn't want to know either. I am Torah Observer. YMMV, What a wonderful summary of how God has been leading you into His truth and light. Sadly many live like Romans 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes. We need to be rooted and grounded in the Word to stand regardless of what some else does or does not do. But i realized people only. I realize that God can speak through someone but what they speak should confirm what God is saying to you. These three simultaneous events sent me running back to my bible. While this was not the only reason that I left the Indian Pentecostal church, it was one of the biggest reasons. One thing that i experienced in years of study on Principalities and Powers of darkness is how Satan mimics the truth (exact opposite of Gods word) also that patterns are a quick way to discern his deceit. The reason I left was because my When I say false teaching I mean heresy, not non essential doctrines which have no bearing on salvation. Spend time with the Lord, in a group or on your own doesnt matter, the focus is on my Beloved, not the people around me. Oh yes, we must have been in the same service because I heard all that nonsense as well. Well Jo-Ann I fellowship with other like minded believers who have also left the corrupt system. 5:21: But examine everything carefully, hold fast to what is good. We have decided to leave our current church as it has too many ties to Bethel, Sozo, & other things that do not pass the above litmus test. Love is a scarce commodity to find in churches and Ive sat in them for 21 years.scarce.Youare considered judgmental, divisive and condemned for stirring up dissension among the brethren which is them taking scripture completely out of context to stay unaccountable, complacent and feeling good about their extreme idol worship. I was told that I would be a failure wherever I went, that I was If I could only stick with it long enough, I believed that all those questions - What should we think of the Signs and Wonders movement? I believe in the Prophetic, but not in the Pathetic. Feelings were important. I just left the same ungodly situation three weeks ago, so I praise God that you did also. O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? We get to validate his false prophecies and bad theology and they get our moneywin, win? Or what denomination etc do you congregate with? These are completely outside of his written word. which is false. So after I quit a good job where I had it all going for me, my life started to fall apart. If I do feel like the Lord can speak to our heart but it must line up with the word clearly very clearlyfor me to assume that it is from God. U.S. IMMIGRATION POLICY KILLS. Amen to that, Michael. I have been invited to a park this Sunday for fellowship with other believers so Im more interested in grass root movements and genuine fellowship rather than pseudo-relationships once/twice a week. I should also be open to the Holy Spirits voice to give Word according to His perfect will. I just cant believe this is God. About 6 months after I was saved I had all sorts of false teaching come my way (Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, Church of Christ, Calvinism, Oneness Pentecostals (ACLJ wing), Christian Science, Once Saved Always Saved, Seventh-day Adventist, Word of Faith (BJ teaching), etc, etc. But one legacy of the movement is confusion and mushy thinking. The great thing is NOW Im able to articulate exactly why its terrible theology. Should Christians live the gospel? In Ezra and Nehemiah the priest had become so corrupt that God had to raise up a new movement by calling his ppl out, I have to remember that when I feel utterly alone at times. I agree with you but those who are twisting the word of God would say that that's their interpretation of it. Marketing and Evangelism were interchangeable terms. do. leadership believed that they were able to receive very specific verbal direction (called "prophetic words" or "words No less miraculous but different. It is not the baby and bath water, what is a baby doing in the filthy water in the first place. So that is why I'm going to recommend some reading that will surely help you in your quest to find your faith again. I probably need to write more soon because I KNOW the spectrum of feelings that go along with leaving. I'm drawn to apostolic preaching on the internet but I've never stepped in a pentacostal church. I was just done. We must be RESTORED to Gods Intelligent Design for the form and function of the Body of Christ. Why did you leave the Pentecostal church? | Christian really had zero conviction. I will be agreeing in prayer with you Brother that God would heal any damage done by this Church and that He would guide you and your family where you need to be. The Evangelical Church as a whole is in great delusion. of a meeting. I am firm in my belief that God is still doing wonderful and miraculous things today. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. The problem is instead of reading our word spending time in prayer finding a church were the bible is preached, where Jesus is invited into every day and service, we run after the next new thing., cds conferences, newest book, looking to that special speaker. Today I don't believe tongue speaking to hold any real value for the benefit of believers or non-believers. Where does the Holy Spirit fit into Sola Scriptura? Cars were always in the parking lot. Afterwards, I sat in the cafe. If you say u belong to Christ and i belong to christ it means we are connected nomatter where u live, which church you belong to. I live in Bangkok and most churches are like this.